collapse

* Events

Sorry! There are no calendar events available at the moment.

* Recent Posts


Author Topic:  Alice in the Heart released for Android & iOS  (Read 8781 times)

SunStarlight

  • Cafe Lover
  • ****
  • Posts: 112
  • Liked: 0
  • 世界を革命する力を
    • Share Post
  • Mobile Device OS: N/A
Reply #15 on: August 13, 2014, 04:24:20 PM
I take back what I said... The translation is horrible. I would rather spend money on something more decent.

Pass.



Advertise Here

BlackFly

  • Frequent Cafe Visitor
  • ***
  • Posts: 51
  • Liked: 0
    • Share Post
Reply #16 on: August 14, 2014, 04:14:23 AM
I'm so happy x33!!! But... how huge is it oxO????? I can't download TOT!! Even erasing many things, I still can't download TOT! And it's pay TwT...


Kouryuu

  • Cafe Visitor
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Liked: 0
    • Share Post
Reply #17 on: August 14, 2014, 05:18:29 PM
I take back what I said... The translation is horrible. I would rather spend money on something more decent.

Pass.
I agree....Japanese translated Otome games tend to stink. They should care more about the English players. However, would you guys rather play this? Or a ITH/translation that is even worse?


Vixey

  • Cafe Addict
  • *****
  • Posts: 943
  • Liked: 4
  • Mrs. Fenrir~♥ /// On Hiatus from Playing
    • Share Post
    • Vixey's Tumblr
  • Mobile Device OS: Android
Reply #18 on: August 24, 2014, 09:37:47 AM
Was just browsing some stuff on Anime News Network and came across this game mentioned in an article, namely about how inexcusably terrible the translation is. But it also brings up an interesting point about why this happens.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2014-08-22/.77818

Quote
I can not tell you how happy I was when quinrose released Alice in the Country of Hearts for Android and iOS in English. It is the game my customers request the most. Yet it only turned out to be another machine translation level failure.



Why is it that whenever a japanese company tries to bring their stuff over and do the translation themselves Like key did with planetarium the translation is almost always horrible. Is it that the japanese think the translation does not matter or that they can not get a half decent translation done?

I'm not a gamer, so I hadn't seen first-hand just how bad of a translation this poor game actually got. It'd be hysterical if people didn't actually care about this game. I mean, it's "All Your Base" level Engrish, of the level even Google Translator seems to rise above these days. As visual novels are predominantly text, this presents an obvious problem: lines range from amusingly off ("I don't want to be with the suicide rabbit!!!") to just plain incomprehensible. Reviews on iTunes and Google Play seem to indicate that the quality varies depending on what paths you take. The prospect of slogging your way through this makes me think of watching an anime with Chinese bootleg subtitles.

Of course, the Japanese completely screwing up English translations is nothing new. Bad Engrish translations are everywhere. Terrible English bit performances crop up in anime now and then. Occasionally they even try to make an English dub in Japan, with predictably unwatchable results. This is what tends to happen in a country where everyone has to take the same foreign language in school, but the program kind of sucks and nobody retains any of it. The Japanese relationship with English in general seems to be something akin to, "you want me to program an operating system from scratch? No problem, I took a computer programming class in 9th grade!"

Native English speakers never see this sort of haughtiness from anybody Japanese in person. As anyone who has ever learned a foreign language knows, whenever you're in front of a native speaker, you realize that you're going to be immediately called out, and seize up. You get nervous, you start to sweat, and manage to eke out an awkward few sentences at most. But among your own friends who are on your level, you'll speak that language endlessly, no matter how terrible it actually sounds. (see: any high school or college anime club.)

And that's the problem, really. In a sea of equally-terrible English speakers, nobody feels all that bad or self-conscious about their skills, and then they bite off way more than they can chew. This sort of situation tends to happen at smaller companies who don't have any actual non-Japanese working for them, or even someone who's studied or worked overseas. In a bubble of similarly poor English speakers, it's easy to think, "hey, I've got this!" And when you're on a tightly budgeted project, it's easy to accidentally think that translating into English is something you can handle. Nobody in your immediate vicinity will tell you otherwise.

This is the problem whenever a company sets out to do anything that's not in a language they speak well -- nobody in a position of power can really understand how good or poor the final product is. The project producer in this case likely couldn't even tell the difference between a machine-made translation and a proper one. This is clearly not an ideal situation, but it comes up all the time. Don't even get me started on when Japanese licensors have to approve English dub scripts, and consequently don't understand ANY common English expressions or idioms.

In case you couldn't tell, yes, I have been on projects where a bunch of Americans have tried to present reports in Japanese, only to be told that we have made utter fools of ourselves and the document we labored over for weeks is completely unintelligible. This is very much a two-way street.

« Last Edit: August 24, 2014, 12:02:39 PM by Vixey »


Aiwethryne

  • Cafe Manager
  • Cafe Neighbor
  • *******
  • Posts: 3426
  • Liked: 38
  • Stalker of the Unseelie Court... Laughing at Smut
    • Share Post
    • Illustrious Fathoms
  • Mobile Device OS: Android & iOS
Reply #19 on: August 24, 2014, 10:04:24 AM
That line in the screenshot was great. I want to buy this just so that I can laugh. That's all I can say.
Click for my game codes
(Or go to my forum profile bio)

...REEEAAAAHH.


Vixey

  • Cafe Addict
  • *****
  • Posts: 943
  • Liked: 4
  • Mrs. Fenrir~♥ /// On Hiatus from Playing
    • Share Post
    • Vixey's Tumblr
  • Mobile Device OS: Android
Reply #20 on: August 24, 2014, 12:04:10 PM
Haha! Well that's certainly a good attitude to have. I look forward to hearing about it on the otome bloopers thread :P


BlackFly

  • Frequent Cafe Visitor
  • ***
  • Posts: 51
  • Liked: 0
    • Share Post
Reply #21 on: October 08, 2014, 02:57:59 AM
I am happy that my first language isn't English. Otherwise, I will cry xP. In fact, I'm having some problems, time to time, trying to understand what are supposed to be written xDUuu... Fortunately, my medium japanese helps a lot xD.

Anyway, is there someone who knows if tablets are able to support the game?? If it's, there will be another good reason to buy one xD

(Sorry, because I know that read me it's killing-eyes sometimes xP... I must improve my english ^^Uuu)



Share via facebook Share via reddit Share via stumble Share via twitter

xx
Alice in the Heart Problem (Android)

Started by Dia_Moon on Help

2 Replies
2889 Views
Last post August 10, 2014, 09:24:30 PM
by Dia_Moon
xx
Shall we date?: Guilty Alice released for Android & iOS

Started by xaaax on Otome Game News

6 Replies
5214 Views
Last post December 31, 2014, 06:57:18 AM
by damaen
xx
[Release] My Alice Romance Released for iOS and Android

Started by FauxBreadMage on Otome Game News

0 Replies
9211 Views
Last post June 28, 2016, 11:21:24 PM
by FauxBreadMage
xx
[Release] Reverse Alice - Queen in Wonderland Released for iOS & Android

Started by kokoro-cafe on Otome Game News

0 Replies
5056 Views
Last post June 21, 2016, 06:41:15 PM
by kokoro-cafe
xx
If My Heart Had Wings released for Android & iOS

Started by xaaax on Otome Game News

1 Replies
2144 Views
Last post June 13, 2014, 01:55:19 AM
by Aiwethryne
 

* Cafe Chat

Refresh History
  • Keyra: it's a shame its no longer active
    November 23, 2023, 12:39:45 AM
  • Keyra: Hi i just rediscovered this again
    November 23, 2023, 12:39:38 AM
  • kokoro-cafe: Wow! Can't believe there's still visitors
    August 22, 2023, 12:08:14 AM
  • Lilwyn: Stopping by to say Hello! :)
    August 18, 2023, 05:44:07 AM
  • SushiMartyr: nonetheless, I feel satisfied with the job I’ve done
    June 30, 2023, 03:15:00 PM
  • SushiMartyr: (fr tho, Tomo-kun is my one and only husbando)
    June 30, 2023, 03:14:11 PM
  • SushiMartyr: It doesn’t seem like anyone’s still here, so no one’s probably around to see me defend my best boi from Scarlet Fate xD
    June 30, 2023, 03:13:37 PM
  • SushiMartyr: Hi
    June 30, 2023, 07:20:37 AM
  • Sakuragawa: Hello to anyone who's still here in 2023  :wave:
    March 27, 2023, 03:29:52 AM
  • Godingame: Is there a community somewhere for the cinderella contract?
    March 01, 2022, 07:22:30 AM
  • Sakuragawa: Another new year, it's 2021. Hope everyone is healthy and well.
    March 28, 2021, 07:45:11 PM
  • KoronoChoi: dandelion wishes
    April 18, 2020, 05:04:30 PM
  • Sakuragawa: The last post was from 2018 and now it is 2020... Hello everyone, hope you are well  :rofl:
    January 05, 2020, 07:31:10 AM
  • Amavanna: Hey I'm looking for some Invites for the games I play can you guys add me, my codes are Angel or devil: HwTcTPa4V2 Hero in Love: B9J4rQDvK2 Never look back: Jf7LG1Xq7c Cant say no: GEYDwJpPju Lost island: GijCVsxGSi Mononoke Kiss: LuyDJDxHhG Magic Sword: Kq2heLxqqn
    October 02, 2018, 02:13:37 PM
  • Amavanna: Hey new here everyone doing ok?
    October 02, 2018, 02:00:30 PM
  • Lilwyn: Hey everyone! It's been awhile since I last stopped by, how is everything?
    October 02, 2018, 03:33:45 AM
  • HakuokiScientia: Is there a CG or a walkthrough for Is it love Peter here? Haven't found around when I googled it :(
    October 02, 2018, 01:35:21 AM
  • kokoro-cafe: @harumia Hi! Welcome to KC :) How are you doing?
    September 11, 2018, 02:53:40 PM
  • harumia: Hi hi! I'm fairly new here (tho I've known KC for years). How are you all?
    September 06, 2018, 06:21:03 PM
  • Mortis: destiny ninja touch my heart spin-off walkthrough
    July 26, 2018, 08:11:25 PM
  • BloodyDagger: Thank you! I checked the group's website and found it! I'm so happy I finally find a decent walkthrough ^^
    June 01, 2018, 02:03:59 PM
  • Sakuragawa: @BloodyDagger after a bit of Googling, it seems that a walkthrough should be included should be included with the English patch? The person/group that's making the the patch linked a JP walkthrough too.
    May 31, 2018, 09:20:56 PM
  • BloodyDagger: Hello, i'm new here, does anyone know where I could get a walkthrough for the pc game aniversary no kuni no alice? I've been searching far and wide and I still can't find it ....
    May 31, 2018, 02:17:19 PM
  • Sakuragawa: Ikemen Revolution is out for Android and iOS! [link]
    May 31, 2018, 12:14:47 AM
  • Oichi: code realize
    May 24, 2018, 11:33:14 AM
  • Oichi: code realize
    May 24, 2018, 11:32:58 AM
  • kokoro-cafe: Hi!
    March 05, 2018, 06:40:42 PM
  • Faith@p: Hii
    March 02, 2018, 12:25:09 PM
  • Faith@p: Hi
    March 02, 2018, 12:24:51 PM
  • Stulluna: Hello, is anyone online?
    March 01, 2018, 03:05:09 AM
  • kokoro-cafe: Actually, just to clarify, are you talking about the paid version or the party version?
    February 14, 2018, 05:02:08 PM
  • kokoro-cafe: No, sorry :(
    February 13, 2018, 04:20:20 PM
  • cain0425: if that case is there any tips you could give on getting the super happy ending for the game?
    February 07, 2018, 09:32:37 AM
  • kokoro-cafe: Possibly but unlikely anytime soon :(
    February 06, 2018, 01:50:34 PM
  • cain0425: will there ever be update on season 3 or season 4 walkthrough of My Forged Wedding you guys only have up to season 2.
    February 06, 2018, 02:37:51 AM
  • RukiKei: Enchanted in the moonlight
    January 18, 2018, 08:03:36 AM
  • kokoro-cafe: Hi!
    January 16, 2018, 06:00:42 PM
  • Emi Nguyen: Hi
    January 05, 2018, 07:51:54 AM
  • Emi Nguyen: Emi Nguyen
    January 05, 2018, 07:51:45 AM
  • kokoro-cafe: Happy Holidays too Sakuragawa!
    December 05, 2017, 02:44:10 PM
  • Sakuragawa: Happy Holidays!  :wave:
    November 23, 2017, 02:47:48 PM
  • Sakuragawa: Made some great memories here and met some nice people.
    November 11, 2017, 03:31:16 AM
  • Sakuragawa: I know it's not Thanksgiving yet, but I want to say that I'm thankful for the existence of KC.  :heart:
    November 11, 2017, 03:29:54 AM
  • angle: hi
    November 05, 2017, 09:55:07 PM
  • Sakuragawa: Happy Halloween ehe
    November 01, 2017, 12:53:05 AM
  • Dawn Skinner: Contract marraige
    September 26, 2017, 08:51:33 PM
  • Satharn: :)
    September 23, 2017, 07:37:31 PM
  • Satharn: Hey there
    September 23, 2017, 07:37:16 PM
  • kokoro-cafe: What game is ths for?
    September 19, 2017, 03:03:15 PM
  • IseeV: (For the Ayato upgraded route) @Zoya Amir
    September 16, 2017, 07:37:21 AM

* Advertisement