[iHikairi]

Introduction
Hello! First off, I would like to apologize if I may or may not post this thread on the wrong subforum. Since the description of the subforum states that I am free to "talk about my favorite game and characters". Even though, I'm not going to discuss my "favorite"... But more of an open thought kind of discussion. 

Secondly, a little spoiler warning. For those who hasn't touch "Liar! Uncover the Truth" yet, this is not a place for you. However, if you are interested in knowing and see this as some sort of review, feel free to stay. Your reply and feedback is always welcomed with open arms.

Third, I would like to thank you for clicking on this thread and begin the openly discussion of the Main Heroine of the newly released otome game called, "Liar! Uncover the Truth". Or if you're only interested in reading different perspective of each unique individual is welcome too. However, I would like to recommend you stay and chat, since I opened it up, I would like to how your point of view and know your thoughts upon the subject. Since, the debate of Main Heroine in various otome is always a heated subject in terms of discussion.

Lastly, I don't want to be that person. Even though I am... But it's always interesting to know what other people think, I can rant all day and all night to myself, but that is just being narrow minded. I wanted and open discussion, to know what other people think and not just stick to one mind. 


A little heads up..!
Everyone's opinion is open and are free to share, so please respect one another before posting your reply. We are all just human beings and each individual have different emotional feelings and virtual/physical preferences over the other. 


Experienced with Voltage Games and their MC...
Reason for opening this thread? Well, the main reason why I decided to open this thread is to look and read other's opinion based on this newly released Voltage game. In the past Voltage game, we see the usual MC being naive, doormat, unintelligent, gullible, too innocent, always cheerful and all those generic tags and labels we give her. Up until now, I've always seen people complaining that MC is being too inexperienced in a proper relationship or not a human being at all in real life; as no one is that insecure, low self esteem and extremely nice (to the point in easily forgiving psychotic rivals that tried to murder you and kidnappers/rapist). 

In all honesty, I haven't play Voltage's game in a long time, so I'm not sure if the MC in Liar: Uncover the Truth is the first MC to have spunk, sass, strong, independent and some-what-intellectual or she might've been the second, third and henceforth. Also, when I meant Voltage game, I meant the Japanese-English translated ones, not the US or other version.

That last Voltage game I played was Love Letters from Thieves X, I stopped playing due to low funds and school. After finishing school, I decided to get back into Voltage again, so far some of the newers ones I player were Kissed by the Baddest Bidder, Star-Crossed Myth and Scandal in the Spotlight; and they still have fairly weak MC.


Main Topic
So after playing "Liar! Uncover the Truth" for awhile... as I've stated, she's different form the other usual MC. And to be brutally honest, I don't enjoy her personality or relate/sympathize with her much than the past MC I'm used to seeing. Maybe it's just me, but I think she seems to be kind of an arsehole... The tags and labels I used on her are... hypocritical, egoistic, snobby, materialistic, shallow and narrow-minded. I don't know, maybe it's just me? I find the past and usual MC more likeable and more easy to manipulate around; rather than this one. But, whenever I have to read the new MC's thought, actions and her words spoken, it's just doesn't tick with my emotions and mainly rub off on the wrong spot. It's just whenever I play the game, I find myself more stressed than enjoying it, it leaves me quite in a sour mood and I feel like dropping the game soon.

Ironically, when the game's title is "Liar! Uncover the Truth", the MC lied plenty herself, which I find hilariously frustrating. One of the example should be, during her conversation with her co-worker Ayumi, the MC deliberately lied to her, when Ayumi asked whether MC was going to get married or not. MC having full of pride as she is, lied, saying she was still in a relationship with Shizuo, MC's ex-boyfriend who cheated on her for six month without her knowledge; and is planning to married sometime soon. Why did she lied? Because MC was jealous by the fact that she's clearly older than her co-worker and thought she'd be the first to happily be married in her company and not her annoyingly dimwitted coworker who enjoys poking fun at MC. So, why make the effort to mention this? Because when Toya, a somewhat celebrity handsome-looking pastry chef MC met during her matchmaking party, dropped by to give MC a sweet treat, Ayumi arsed her way in and called hanky saying MC was still in a relationship in front of Toya before running away, in which MC reacted by being pissed at her, when it was her own fault for relaying false information in the first place. The lie doesn't stop her and continue throughout the gameplay, which is hilariously frustrating at how ironic it is.

Now, I'm not sure if the MC could potentially fall into the golddigger category... I mean attending a matchmaking party with a minimum salary of 10 million yen... Not a golddigger, right? Well, she's definitely a snob. I mean she has her reason, she wants an urban life in the city and doesn't want to go back to the countryside. She doesn't want all her hard work laid to waste... Even so, she still has a nasty attitude towards other people that doesn't meet her requirements. During the beginning of the prologue, MC remembered a conversation with her mother, discussing that if MC doesn't have get married soon, MC's mother will introduce MC to a guy she know in her hometown, in which MC complained that she'd rather die than marry some "redneck"... After several play-through, I've managed to reach the 6th liar route, where MC met up with Sotaro and they have a little chat, this is where MC wanted to know more about her potential hubby's family background. Sotaro opened up and said that they have a family farm in the US; the MC reacted by freaking out and complaining "And now marriage means a farm in a totally different country? How is that right? Say it ain't so! That life I dreamed of is fading before my eyes..." She's literately stuck in between of either marrying a hot rich surgeon that owns a farm and not wanting to work on said farm and continue her job. If she's not so hype about it, break it off before things go sour... 

She's very demanding and set her ideals and standards way too high, even though she's nothing much to brag about herself. Yet she demands so much from other people without looking at what she is herself.


Reminder...
I know that not everyone is perfect, I have many flaws I'm not quite proud of it myself. But this discussion is not meant for that, but an open discussion meant for what's your thought on the new MC? How do you feel about her? 


Open for Discussion!
So far, I've seen a lot of people loving her. Of course, they do, she's not generic and overused. She's has personality unlike the other usual dull MC. But for me, I think it takes away the aspect of role playing away from the game. MC is supposed to be you, the player, not a made up character. You are free to imagine how the character looks (that's why they didn't bother to add eyes to some of the CGs), how they sound and are in complete control over the character. So why didn't I apply the same method to the new MC? Because it's difficult when personality is involved, and have I forgotten to mention that she literally complains about everything? The past and usual MC, I guess, are more open minded in certain situation. 

Regardless of what I say, agree to disagree, what do you think about the Heroine in "Liar! Uncover the Truth"?

Linkback: https://kokoro-cafe.net/index.php?topic=1860.0

[kokoro-cafe]

Ok first and foremost, I'm really glad you opened up this topic because the same things were going through my head. So far I'm only at the third liar but I've been very frustrated with the MC since the opening of the game. Don't get me wrong, I love a strong, independent and self sufficient woman but from the moment she described what she wanted in a man it sounded like what she actually wants is arm candy. She wants a young, good looking and successful guy she can trot in front of other women and make them jealous. Hey, that's great but not at all realistic. Anyone who's been in a few relationships know that it's not possible to find the perfect guy, there's always going to be something that will nudge you the wrong way. Not only are her expectations over the moon but she's manipulative too. She said she got the first guy by growing her hair long and acquiring a more motherly nature because that's what he likes. In my opinion, that's just as weak as any of the other Voltage MCs. You shouldn't need to change yourself to suit another guys preferences. Your relationship won't last if you can't present the real you to him. I'm in the same boat where I'm not perfect myself but it's soooooo incredibly hard not to judge her. I hate to say it but if you go out with the standards she has in finding a guy, what do you actually expect to find? It's great to have high standards but she needs to understand that there will never be the perfect guy that meets everything she wants.

That said, everyone is the hero/heroine of their own story. People always see the bad in everyone else but very rarely in themselves. So to a point I see her standpoint, she's just that kind of person. It's so hard to ignore though....

 Also, what's with the men in this story too. They are so two dimensional and who proposes after just meeting a few times??? I would run screaming if anything like that happened to me.

[Sakuragawa]

I happen to like this MC. I like that she's selfish and hides her true self. I like that she uses foul language. She's not a mary sue like most other heroines. I find her more relatable than other MCs. I like that she's unrepentant. She seems more like a villain than a hero. I don't agree with her ideals but I find her interesting. I've liked her from the start. She's not completely horrible. It's not so bad having an MC like this once in a while. I think if she wasn't the MC and thus able to read her thoughts, I wouldn't like her so much. 

I find it harder to relate to other MCs who are pure and good and does no wrong.

Every one of the characters are over the top. They take bad traits and blow them up a bit. 

I wasn't going to play this game when I saw how the guys looked, but I found MC and the uniqueness of the game appealing.

(From the Japanese PV of the game I think I might like the second MC more.)

[iHikairi]

Ok first and foremost, I'm really glad you opened up this topic because the same things were going through my head. So far I'm only at the third liar but I've been very frustrated with the MC since the opening of the game. Don't get me wrong, I love a strong, independent and self sufficient woman but from the moment she described what she wanted in a man it sounded like what she actually wants is arm candy. She wants a young, good looking and successful guy she can trot in front of other women and make them jealous. Hey, that's great but not at all realistic. Anyone who's been in a few relationships know that it's not possible to find the perfect guy, there's always going to be something that will nudge you the wrong way. Not only are her expectations over the moon but she's manipulative too. She said she got the first guy by growing her hair long and acquiring a more motherly nature because that's what he likes. In my opinion, that's just as weak as any of the other Voltage MCs. You shouldn't need to change yourself to suit another guys preferences. Your relationship won't last if you can't present the real you to him. I'm in the same boat where I'm not perfect myself but it's soooooo incredibly hard not to judge her. I hate to say it but if you go out with the standards she has in finding a guy, what do you actually expect to find? It's great to have high standards but she needs to understand that there will never be the perfect guy that meets everything she wants.

That said, everyone is the hero/heroine of their own story. People always see the bad in everyone else but very rarely in themselves. So to a point I see her standpoint, she's just that kind of person. It's so hard to ignore though....

 Also, what's with the men in this story too. They are so two dimensional and who proposes after just meeting a few times??? I would run screaming if anything like that happened to me.

Thank you! At first, I was a little hesitant and reluctant in opening this thread and sharing my opinion since people are very sensitive about certain topics and subjects. But, I'm glad that you agree!

If you're only at the 3rd liar then the rest might be quite a nightmare to deal with, trust me, the guys doesn't stresses out me as much because I know what's going to happen as the story progresses until you've finally reached the 10th liar, which is MC's ideal hubby... But so far, reading MC's POV is driving me crazy. She always finds little thing to either compare or complain to her ridiculous standards.

I strongly agree with you, being in a relationship doesn't always lead to a happy life on the first get go, you're going to go through hardship either way. Being in a relationship requires both partner to be honest, faithful, understanding and support each other; plus all the obstacle the two needs to get through and the list grows more complicated. However, MC here is just living in her own fantasy where she thought she could live a happy life after finally finding her chosen one, thus going for her ridiculous standards she has set for herself. Which is, as you said, unrealistic. I know this is just fictional work and it's only for entertainment on our part. But to me, visual novel is on another level, I do otome because of the emotionally feelings I gathered from them. Not all this...

I agree that the MC here change major factors in herself by manipulating and luring her ex-bf to her trap by being his "ideal" woman. But I think it's okay to change a little to cope with the other. Though, I guess the changes I'm talking about are bad habits and bad behavior. But definitely, I agree that she shouldn't change herself to fit the preference of her partner's. 

I would be more interested if Voltage continued the meek/weak MC from the past and usual game, then slowly develop her way into a more mature and independent woman. I think it would make the game and it's story flourish more as she goes through all these weird situations and gains knowledgeable experience as she goes. That's what development is all about, ain't it? Thus, it would make the story run more longer and richer, rather than this MC who gets straight to the point.

At first, I was thinking about posting this thread as whole discussion for "Liar!: Uncover the Truth" regarding their characters and plots. But since I've been frustrated with the MC of this game, I wanted to take a breather and opened this instead. I'm not sure why Voltage decided to take this route for the men to have these types of personality or whatever they are after. If this happened to me in real life, I would react the same as you and run away, just like all my problems...

[iHikairi]

I happen to like this MC. I like that she's selfish and hides her true self. I like that she uses foul language. She's not a mary sue like most other heroines. I find her more relatable than other MCs. I like that she's unrepentant. She seems more like a villain than a hero. I don't agree with her ideals but I find her interesting. I've liked her from the start. She's not completely horrible. It's not so bad having an MC like this once in a while. I think if she wasn't the MC and thus able to read her thoughts, I wouldn't like her so much.

I find it harder to relate to other MCs who are pure and good and does no wrong.

Every one of the characters are over the top. They take bad traits and blow them up a bit.

I wasn't going to play this game when I saw how the guys looked, but I found MC and the uniqueness of the game appealing.

(From the Japanese PV of the game I think I might like the second MC more.)

I don't think most or the usual MC are Mary Sues at all, including that they're ditsy, sometimes careless, too nice for their own good, somewhat unintelligent and often dimwitted... Though I guess this doesn't applies to all MCs.

I'm not relate-able to the other MCs either, considering no one can be like them and put up what they have to go through, that's why I respect them as much. Even though not many may agree. I guess I sympathize with them more rather than relate to their feelings.  

MC is often depicted as a hardworking character and she earns her way rather than use and take advantage of other people's connection or property. Also, in terms of forgiving assholes, she knows what she's getting into and due to her golden heart she wants to make amends with her psychotic rivals and involved in other antagonist's scheme. She's just too naive as she lacks experience and judgement. But that doesn't stop her from making things right.

As a victim of bullying for 2 straight years and falling into several states of depression, I guess I could feel what she has since, I'm way too nice and people tend to use me so often that I felt broken most of the time. I guess to me, most MC is like my role model. They're not weak as people say they are, people just failed to see that. Most MC are actually pretty strong in their own ways. Again, I have to admit I'm not strong. I even have my own battles that I can't win...

[Arisa-chan]

I kind of half-like this MC
She's not so pure like oh-an-angel and more brutal, but on the other hand, I find her so fake
If she really wants that ideal man, she should first behave herself
Her manner outside and inside is so different
She thinks she's all brain and beauty, but she's actually so shallow...
Shallow enough with her demand that she easily attracts bad guy
I think she should learn her lesson before she met the true one...at least it will act as some kind of punishment for her unrealistic dream
for people who don't like her, reading every Bad Ending will give you satisfaction
Though...in my case, BE giving me creeps every time

[kokoro-cafe]

I can understand where @Sakuragawa is coming from, the MC is refreshing and she's obviously far from perfect and to an extent I can appreciate that, which is why I'm still playing. That said, I don't like her.  It's hard for me to cheer for someone like that. I honestly couldn't care less if she has a happy ending. I love strong female characters, I love a girl who isn't afraid to use foul language but I have zero interest in a girl who only cares about the most materialistic things in life, it seems as naive as the goody two shoes MCs Voltage pumps out. =/  I know I'm only on the third liar but like @iHikairi says, I'm much more interested in a person that changes and evolves into a better and more mature person which I don't think this character ever does.

@iHikari I think I kind of understand Voltage's point in making these less than stellar men in the story. Seems more of a warning, like there are people like this in the world, they may seem perfect but you still have to be careful. I came across an article not long ago about how a dating sim game can be considered as a safe, entry-level way to learn about dating and this seems like a logical step to take for otome games. It warns girls of things to watch out for in people when dating and lets them know that they aren't all prince charmings out there which I totally support.

@Arisa-chan I agree, BE is pretty disturbing, especially the BE for the second liar... You just know she's abused at home.

[iHikairi]

I kind of half-like this MC
She's not so pure like oh-an-angel and more brutal, but on the other hand, I find her so fake
If she really wants that ideal man, she should first behave herself
Her manner outside and inside is so different
She thinks she's all brain and beauty, but she's actually so shallow...
Shallow enough with her demand that she easily attracts bad guy
I think she should learn her lesson before she met the true one...at least it will act as some kind of punishment for her unrealistic dream
for people who don't like her, reading every Bad Ending will give you satisfaction
Though...in my case, BE giving me creeps every time

I like the concept their going with, I think they just executed it poorly. They could've done better and give a more in depth MC than this one. At least that is what I think they were directing their attention for. 
The Bad Ending doesn't give me satisfaction one bit. I know I dislike her, but to the point of her ending up having to live her rest of her life in Hell on Earth is just too much. 
Regardless of the person, no person should ever endure or have a life like that. I know that they're actual events of this happening around the world at the moment; and it's a difficult situation to handle... It's just a sad and complicated... 

[iHikairi]

@iHikari I think I kind of understand Voltage's point in making these less than stellar men in the story. Seems more of a warning, like there are people like this in the world, they may seem perfect but you still have to be careful. I came across an article not long ago about how a dating sim game can be considered as a safe, entry-level way to learn about dating and this seems like a logical step to take for otome games. It warns girls of things to watch out for in people when dating and lets them know that they aren't all prince charmings out there which I totally support.

That's an interesting way to look at it. I guess it served it's purpose and I guess I can understand it that way.

[Sakuragawa]

I agree that they should have given the MC more depth. We don't know why she's the way she is and why she wants what she does. She also doesn't give much away about herself.