[Aiwethryne]

My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I can still pour out so much from my brain for this game. Obviously, my post is filled with spoilers. Read at your own discretion~

The Second Reproduction takes place well after the game Queen of Darkness, which was about a demon princess who decided to create her own kingdom, so there are obvious references and reused backgrounds. In The Second Reproduction, however, the story follows the human princess Christina, a Champion who fights demons. Christina is given a task from her mother, the queen, to kill the last Demon Lord, even if it means that she must die in the process. She and her knight, Lezette, embark on their journey into the heart of the demon kingdom.

Unlike Queen of Darkness, this game has no battle system. It's just a typical straightforward visual novel with choices. This game has one of those daily map decisions systems, so you can only go around three or four locations (or the same location) per holiday. There are only five actual endings: a good and a bad ending in each of Gardis and Lezette's routes, and an ending with Jin. Jin's route is the only one where

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you can die and the story just ends.

All of the main story scenes containing Christina, Gardis, Lezette, and Jin are voiced, but the side quests and minor characters have no voicing.

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Christina (significant spoilers)

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She is eighteen years old and the youngest of the Almenan princesses. Although a princess, her talents lie in her abilities with the sword and agility, and she is not overly concerned about her own femininity. Her human blood is tainted with diluted demon blood, but she only learns this in Lezette's route. It is because of her blood that she is capable of going back in time. She becomes Queen of Almenan in Lezette's route, and she has a child with Gardis in Gardis' route. She establishes a contract with Gardis so that they both die at the same time.

Gardis

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He is the grandson of Risty, the demon queen from Queen of Darkness, and son of a human man and Risty's daughter. Although he is part human, his magical capability far exceeds most of the demons of the land, and he has been alive for countless hundreds of years. His nails are red and freakishly long.

Lezette

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Having been Knighted by Christina, he has been Christina's friend for years. At twenty-one years old (if my memory is correct), he is the caring oldest child of several young siblings of a village somewhat near demon territory. Children adore him.

Jin

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The son of the previous Prime Minister who served under Risty, Jin took up the position and is a close friend and extremely loyal follower of Gardis. His magical powers are strong, and he is merciless to enemies. He has a thing for bondage.

Helaris

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She is the Queen of Almenan and loathes demons. She seeks to unify the world with herself as the overruling queen. She was once in love with a demon prince, whom she believed betrayed her. She is left-handed.

Cecilia

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She is the middle sister of the princesses, and she marries King Roland in an arranged marriage. She was surprised that Roland did not seem as old as she assumed and gets pregnant three years later.

Fianna

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As the eldest princess who worries about the future of her country, she instigates a coup to overthrow and imprison Helaris in Jin's route.

Jayda

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A young demon boy who Christina and Gardis adopt after his mother, Marina, dies. He becomes the future Prime Minister and marries Risty.

Risty

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She is the daughter of Christina and Gardis, and her hair is gold. Named after Gardis' grandmother, she looks just like her. Risty marries Jayda, but they are already affectionate when she is ten and Jayda is... twenty (but demons physically age slowly).

There are evidently more characters, but I am not listing them all~ I probably typed people's names wrong~~


And now I am pasting what I typed elsewhere and just adding stuff. *too lazy to think more* This is more of a rant portion.

I remember finishing every route this game in two days, Tweeting about it in my locked Twitter account. XDD I think that I did cry when

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Gardis died the first time

. I was shocked because I thought that I had already reached a dead end, but then the silly instance of

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TIME TRAVEL

happened. Hence the title. My first route ended in one of the bad ends, but I am okay with that since I actually prefer figuring out where I went wrong all on my own. I just kept to the tips that were given and it was pretty easy to navigate and get full completion for the extra scene and CG.

I honestly could not comprehend Lezette's actions, since it seemed like he could have freaking TOLD CHRISTINA EVERYTHING and saved all the heartbreak that I really could not feel myself. Of course, he was trying to spare her feelings

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of guilt over Croft

, but that whole

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self-sacrificing

aspect was, like, WHYYYY??

I thought that threatening Christina with

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the death of Lezette

was the best way to keep the two of them in the demon kingdom, but the magical device that appeared around Lezette's neck looked so stupid! I thought that it would be some sort of magical marking all over his body, but it was some dinky little thing that looked more technological.

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Then Lezette simply POOFED away after willingly passing the border? What the heck? If anything, his body should have remained intact in all its dead-ness, which would leave Christina even more grief-stricken.

Even though this game is not *really* my favorite otoge (though, yes, it has that very special place in my heart), I usually list it as such in case people are curious enough to look at my forum profiles in random other places. I know that I had swayed at least one person to start playing The Second Reproduction~ There are quite a number of people who appreciate Christina as a strong heroine who grows in the story and can make her own sound decisions, and the concepts surrounding the war were rather appealing, as well.

My absolute favorite track in the game was Reverse. The moment I heard it I let it keep going for several minutes before proceeding. It is a shame that there were not more scenes with this BGM. I like the sprites and some of the CGs, but many of the CGs still look derpy, almost as though another artist or assistant tackled them instead. Oh, and I still adored Jin's route, even though some people are torn by/dislike his rape-y yandere-ness.

Like I mentioned in my fanart thread about this game, my final gripe about this game is how child Risty is blonde. *eye twitch* Even though anime/manga is full of characters with hair colors that reach the rainbow spectrum, I have this issue with stories in general that do not take genetics in account. Of course it was based on Granny Risty's hair, but I cannot imagine that would be possible when both of Christina's sisters and mother had silver hair. Pfft, recessive genes, my butt. It's like saying that a black haired guy and a red haired woman suddenly get a very neon blue haired child.

Still, it is too sad that this developer died rather quickly.

Linkback: https://kokoro-cafe.net/index.php?topic=836.0

[Riyumi]

*came here after redirect...gl with your drawing though!* I saw your fan art and couldn't help but lol at some of them (Forbidden Love AHAHA). There are really nice ones too! (Even if incomplete)

This game sounds really interesting :3  I'd like to try it out--when I have no one in the house lol. Eroge would be the end of me xD but a developing/strong MC is really appealing.

By any chance, when you say English translation...do you mean the Buy import+download English patch + change system settings method? I, for one, do not mind purchasing games but all these emulators/download methods make me uneasy. I feel like I'd need a computer/device solely for imports so that this system change business doesn't kill my computer and so I don't become disappointed if the game or my computer doesn't work anymore (or at least not as much heartbreak). //tries to support developers in whatever way possible no matter how hard my wallet cries and slowly revives

Though, if there is absolutely no way of obtaining the game/having it brought over in English--I get simple to operate games imported to show some support (only project diva lol--but looks like that has an official release now) //guilty of seeing some Lucky Dog Let's Play's too though. Never touched voltage ones though--since those are available/can be obtained. Maybe they'll realize all the imports to America means we want them released >_>;; but it's tough to market here with such a small group that likes them .__. Or the companies they try to make deals with reject our existence/otome games' existence as part of the market outside mobile.

[Aiwethryne]

By dead developer, I meant that even Heterodoxy's home page is gone forever. There is no way to get new copies, as far as I am aware, so the alternative is the only option.

My old laptop stopped working well over a year ago, and that was where I had this game. I'll need to start it aaaallll over again~ </3 It made it difficult to spot check the details when I typed out this topic.

And, darn. I need to edit those text sizes up there. Le sigh~ If only all the words I set at small weren't reset to 5 when we moved to this platform.

By the way, the eroge part isn't even as explicit as what you may read in SWD games with sexual endings. It's extremely light, actually. Only Jin's route touches into the risqué further (read that another person wrote his route), but it is nothing intense.

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The worst the CGs go are Christina and her guy being covered by some large cloth. Nothing that needs particular censoring.

[OtomeBabe]

[member=1790]Riyumi[/member] : this game is my old time fave and will be my favorite forever. You can buy the 2nd copy from other user. There are more and more jap games withenglish patch provided by fans for example Starry☆ [/color][/size]Sky[/color]. However, you should buy the original game first beforw you add the patch.

[Vixey]

I'm here from the redirect also lol.

Hmm I am intrigued! Would I need to play Queen of Darkness first though?

Lol just googled since I was curious what the characters looked like, and laughed when my results turned up this

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[Riyumi]

[member=7333]Aiwethryne[/member]  nooooo. That's the worst one orz  and if that's the case--then I'll have no qualms with securing myself a copy. I'm still afraid of changing my system, though, so I'll probably use a really old computer once I install it from the disc.

[member=522]Marie[/member] I thought about that for Yo-Jin-Bo since official sites sell them for $100-200 considering they don't develop any new CDs so all that exists are the ones already released. Thank you for reminding me that I can buy Second Reproduction from other users. I'll look for threads of people selling CDs :3  I don't really like buying Japanese imports with unofficial patches, though, because 1) downloads may not work 2) they are difficult to put together even with winzip 3) I may get stupid viruses with it 4)my computer can only switch regions/locations five times before it locks 5) bugs/glitches on patch that won't be fixed because the group is dead 6) really cringe worthy/inaccurate or super literal translations

Most likely, if I attempt the patch method, I will do so on an ancient computer. It's a necessity to have the game in order to patch. I wonder if someone started a thread with all the patches available and a link to where they can buy the imports. Amazon doesn't always have them in stock and some are only found at special sites.

Thus, I stick with official English releases, or originally English made games/visual novels for now. The only imports I have bought--are ones that are simple: drama CDs/music (lol just pop it a CD player), or rhythm games b/c you just press the keys they ask for. Only difference is: in Japan...select is O and cancel is X. Whereas, in America X is select and O is cancel/back.

[member=19266]Vixey[/member]  what I think Queen of Darkness only does is provide background information and nostalgia for users who continue on with the company/decide to play Second Reproduction. Thus, you get references in points in time of that game, but I don't think they're necessary to continue on playing SR. //has not played but I'm sure I saw a walkthrough/review that said it's not totally necessary.

[Vixey]

Thank you for reminding me that I can buy Second Reproduction from other users. I'll look for threads of people selling CDs :3  I don't really like buying Japanese imports with unofficial patches, though, because 1) downloads may not work 2) they are difficult to put together even with winzip 3) I may get stupid viruses with it 4)my computer can only switch regions/locations five times before it locks 5) bugs/glitches on patch that won't be fixed because the group is dead 6) really cringe worthy/inaccurate or super literal translations

Most likely, if I attempt the patch method, I will do so on an ancient computer. It's a necessity to have the game in order to patch. I wonder if someone started a thread with all the patches available and a link to where they can buy the imports. Amazon doesn't always have them in stock and some are only found at special sites.

Woww it sounds like it is crazy complicated to be able to get this game and play in english then @_@ too much work. I'd hate to buy a game and then not be able to figure out how to get it to english. Then again I'm also very lazy and easily overwhelmed.

[Riyumi]

[member=19266]Vixey[/member] I suggest finding the patch, looking at the comments/reviews, and also see if they have tutorials. I know for Brave Prince or something, they have instructions on how you switch to Japanese region in control panel. My computer has restrictions on that amount, so when I think my laptop should retire/my dad doesn't use it anymore either...what I think I'll do is leave it permanently on the Japanese settings and store all imports/patches there with an antivirus program. If the uploaded a are good at coding and are best with their files--you shouldn't have many problems like the ones I've stated.

[Aiwethryne]

Queen of Darkness and The Second Reproduction are standalone games. They are just in the same world, and you'd get some ahah! moments when you see the references. That and weird-outs when you realize who some characters are related to. But QD is not translated, last I remember, which feels like years ago. I played SR first, and it made perfect sense.

That CG is from the newest version of Queen of Darkness. The original CGs were very... well, if you played a lot of older VNs, it had that fugly, squishy look. LOL I don't know how to describe that. The new art was soooooo much prettier. BTW QD was more of the actual eroge to appeal to the men, while SR appeals more to the women.

Fan translations were pretty damn good for SR.

[Riyumi]

Awesome! Then I'll look out for the game/fan translations. I don't think I'll be able to now, but should I run into it...I'll know it'll be an opportunity I don't want to miss and just go for it!